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With that word of caution, let’s move onto the specifics.

Vintage Shalimar parfum in the “bat” or “urn” shape. Then, 1970s 1 oz bottle that looks like regular glass.

For the most part, when it comes to the very old bottles of vintage Shalimar, one is basically using deductive reasoning to draw imprecise inferences and conclusions from wholly circumstantial evidence.

So, if you’re hoping for a “hard and fast,” set rule on dating, there isn’t one.

Before I start, I want to underline once again something that I said in Part I: there is a lot of guesswork involved when trying to date anything much earlier than 1976 which is roughly when Guerlain began using codes on its bottles and boxes.

Unless you luck out and find a seller who was the original purchaser of the bottle, their relative who knows the history of the bottle, or someone with incontrovertible and specific evidence (like a receipt with the date of purchase, for example), then you can never know with absolute certainty if a bottle dates to, say, the 1950s, the 1960s, or any other decade prior to the 1970s.

Most of the time, there are just estimates and guesses in this area.Far right, a 3/4 oz 1970s bottle that is said to be “Baccarat” as well. The most famous and instantly recognisable bottle for Shalimar parfum is one whose shape is compared to a “bat” or to an “urn,” and that signature design has been in use straight from the fragrance’s debut until the present day without major modification.Its official name is the “Flacon Chauve Souris.” From the 1920s to the late 1970s, it was manufactured by three different companies.(I’ll talk about those other bottles in a moment.) Finally, the few bottles that I have seen from the two companies (again, in shapes other than the “bat” or the “urn”) look like they have very different glass than bottles manufactured by Baccarat.To my eye, none of them look like heavy crystal in the way that the Baccarat does. It also has a noticeable heft, thickness, and weight that instantly stands out.

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